Hunger / Poverty
It's not surprising to see Juvenal talk about real poverty. He tells a story of a man named Codrus who suffered from want. "Poor Codrus had nothing, it is true: but he lost that nothing, which was his all; and the last straw in his heap of misery is this, that though he is destitute and begging for a bite, no one will help him with a meal, no one offer him lodging or shelter." He talks about the unfairness of the wealth of those outside of Rome, while in the great empire's capital they "perish for want of sleep...for who but the wealthy get sleep in Rome?" He goes into great detail, but it suffices to say that there is a lot of this in Rome, around our very communities and not too far from our homes.
Violence
We all know about the Coliseum, and the gladiator fights there, among other things. Juvenal mentions that once-good men now "hold shows of their own, and win applause by slaying whomsoever the mob...bids them slay," showing a kind of de-evolution. I think this happens all too often here in the USA. For starters, our culture is saturated more than ever with a love of blood and violence. That can easily rub off and take away our ability to recognize good humanity.
Dishonesty
Juvenal talks about men always trying to be something they aren't, mostly to impress their friends and neighbors. Sometimes, people will even take advantage of others to improve themselves. He states that, "In Rome, every one dresses smartly, above his means, and sometimes something more than what is enough is taken out of another man's pocket." There is a great falseness about the greatness of Rome, and though it seems nice on the outside, it is apparently just barely contained poverty and corruption. Sometimes that describes how our "American Dream" may really be perceived. "A man's word is believed in exact proportion to the amount of cash which he keeps in his strong-box," and that reflects in many of the lead innovators and celebrities of the day.
Immorality
This isn't a new problem; in fact, the wide-spread presence of immorality in a culture usually is a sign of its nearing fall. Here Juvenal says that to a Roman, "there is nothing sacred to his lusts: not the matron of the family, nor the maiden daughter, not the as yet unbearded son-in-law to be...if none of these be there, he will debauch his friend's grandmother." There is such an eager immorality in our country as well, and I hope that people can go back to the traditional values soon.
Intolerance
This seemed to be another problem for Juvenal's Rome. He says, "And what of this, that the poor man gives food and occasion for jest if his cloak be torn and dirty...?" He hates the fact that tolerance is based on material wealth. Juvenal bemoans, "Of all the woes of luckless poverty none is harder to endure than this, that it exposes men to ridicule." It's very unfair, and can still be seen all over America. We judge people by what they have or where they come from, not who they are.
Super interesting points. It's so cool to see that so many of our social problems today are reflected in Roman society. Intolerance is a very interesting point because I think today we like to think that society has become so much more tolerant of many things. But in reality we are still a very intolerant society--we want to people to have the popular opinion and if they don't then we find intolerance. It's really interesting to see this reflected in Rome, that the amount of tolerance you receive is based on your material wealth.
ReplyDeleteWhen you look at the world today, there isn't so much that's blatantly wrong, like having people fight to the death in a huge arena. Everything is more subtle, like violence in movies and video games. I would agree with you that all these subtle ways of taking away our humanity can influence our society as negatively as it did the Romans.
ReplyDeleteHey, great post buddy. i'm glad that I can be such an inspiring person to you. But back to your post, I think that these are all very significant problems in our day. I don't think that it's wrong for people to question the conformity of society, but I think there are certain moral values that people need to abide by in order to continue keeping a peaceful, happy, and non-belligerent society. I think the most important value we can have is being in a family, and supporting the family unit in order to keep it together. As several prophets and political leaders have said, this is the foundation to a successful nation.
ReplyDeleteGreat point you made. It is truly unfortunate the way that our country is going. There is so much parallelism in how we are acting as a population and how they seemed to act in that time. Things that I think hurt us the most is the love of violence. We might not have gladiators fighting but we sure have movies and tv shows about that and serial killers and gangs and so much more. That constant violence and dishonesty hurt the integrity of the human population so much. Really interesting post.
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